this is soooooooo vile lmao... "would you support me in trying to regain some of my humanity? since you've been berating me viciously about it for two seasons?" "no. you disgust me."
why would martin do this in the first place? when he is also becoming an avatar of the lonely and it is also negatively impacting everyone around him? is that another thing that only he's allowed to do? like he KNEW that this would happen if he revealed jon's feeding. he knew the archive crew would turn on him again.
oh actually saying this rn i think leaving this tape for the crew was a deliberately malicious expression of his own avatarhood... he's being consumed by the forsaken of course he would want jon to be as isolated as possible and remove whatever tenuous goodwill he had built up with the girls
girl real shit you were a POLICE OFFICER i do not want to fucking hear it. how many people have YOU murdered extrajudiciously? at least jon was hungry, you were just a cop
again, it's all good for melanie to be an avatar of the slaughter!! it's all good for melanie to physically assault jon in the archives!! to maul him!!! to stab him!!!! melanie only has this high horse perspective btw because jon saved her life and stopped her transformation! she is only here alive looking down her nose at him because he saved her life.
daisy is so meek here i'm honestly shocked basira is still so deep in denial and so adamant on protecting her because she clearly resents her defanged gf so deeply
and wow the absolute spineless behavior on daisy's end of being part of this mob while knowing that she did more and worse for DECADES but it's an issue that jon's eating people because he doesn't have a badge and a dumb hat
it's only ok to traumatize innocent civilians when you're doing it with a police baton i guess
#s4 did a spectacular job at providing a wide range of people who sucked ass. all of them. it was SPECTACULAR #and then what came of it… #tma #they were all so angry and resentful and hypocritical with one another and despite it being one of the most uncomfortable experience of my #life media wise listening to them basically piling on jon for 40 episodes it was SO well done… it felt purposeful… #how did this not turn into a villain arc for jon tho is beyond me (via @girlcaligula )
this is really really really really it for me like s4 set up a world for 38 episodes where every single person in jon’s life (literally except elias and helen, who aren’t people anymore) turned on him wrestled him to the ground and started steel toed boot kicking him in the kidneys. just psychologically curb stomping him every step of the way. being overtly cruel and cold and vicious. and then somehow the narrative was like [somber] this is a good thing for these people to do and logically jon should be doing everything in his power to lay belly up and take their abuse instead of having a villain arc
like somehow you’ve set up a story where the only place jon can find compassion, joy, or belonging is with the monsters in his life who call to him and then you turn around and are like “here is jon’s beautiful reward for choosing to ‘preserve his humanity’, it’s his shitty coworker who he doesn’t even like!! they’re in love!! there are cows :)”
The wgole season had me think "oh so this is why hes gonna turn to elias and snap isnt it... any day now.... HUH?????"
the narrative is SO weird about Jon. Literally every other character gets to do the same things or much worse usually much worse and it’s fine as long as it’s not jon
I understand some of these examples, but others really don't apply. Melanie, for one, quite literally made no justifications for her actions in the provided image? She said she's not responsible for *Jon's* actions, not her own. The way he phrased the sentence could make it seem like he was going to deflect it towards her, so she immediately gets defensive as a character who's used to having to defend herself. And on Georgie, she already cut him off. It confuses me when the fandom villainizes her pre-S5; she and Jon are no longer friends by this point. The reason she left, (aside from him consistently pushing her boundaries,) is because Jon has a habit of digging himself deeper holes, and at some point she decided it was no longer worth being dragged down with him. It sucks, but it's reality. You can't save someone who, for whatever reason, decides not to change. This expectation that she should bend over backwards and sacrifice her own peace or well-being for the sake of Jon *strictly* because he's a likeable character is ridiculous. The writing isn't perfect, but that much is clear.
I know I'm a bit late to the party but I wanted to talk so